the idea that former nazis from world war 2 are still being hunted down, stripped of their citizen rights in countries they have moved to, is proof of how the concept of justice served juxtaposes with the concept Jesus teaches us of moving on and forgiving
the convellere 2012 adds - to deport 80 plus year old former nazis to stand trial for the crimes they committed in their youth more than 1/2 a century ago is awful… one must stop fighting the battles of the past and move on…
post script in repy to comments recived - your usage of the “F” word speaks volumes about a lesson you have yet to learn - unless you move on and forgive others, wars never end and you end up fighing the same battles all through time - peace becomes peace when forgiveness comes into the heart… to me, you do more harm to your cause when you think its actually ok to act without a heart… far better to act with kindness and love, than with hate … like Gandhi said - an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.. and if killing in the name of justice is allowed, than whom has the right to kill the executioner? and then whom has the right to kill the executioner of that executioner.. you see, it is an unending circle that would leave everyone dead if we all believed as you do.. move on, evolve, and learn to forgive and have a heart… love not hate is the way towards peace.. hate only gets hate in return… no duh!
Your bitter, sympathetic tears over the fact that mass-murderers aren’t being allowed to just get away with it is EXACTLY why I consider the Jewish concept of justice superior in every way to Christianity’s. In. Every. Way.
Judaism teaches that wrongdoers are obligated to ask for forgiveness directly from those they hurt. The first ten days of Tishrei are all dedicated to this concept, culminating in Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement). Furthermore, the Torah emphasizes the moral imperatives of dealing justly with others and taking the part of victims who can’t defend or stand up for themselves (the widow, the orphan, the stranger, the poor). In other words, Judaism’s concept of justice requires the wrongdoer to make it right.
In Christianity, on the other hand, everyone is presumed to be a wrongdoer by nature. I’ve been lectured many times by Christians on how “all sins are equal in God’s eyes”—as if things like murder, rape, and battery aren’t particularly egregious evils but mere equivalents to other Christian sins like blasphemy, atheism, and premarital sex, none of which harm anyone—and that as long as you believe in Christianity, your sins no longer matter. In Christian thought, the obligation isn’t on the wrongdoer to seek forgiveness (except from God), but on the wronged party to “turn the other cheek,” “forgive and forget,” and “get over it.”
Judaism supports the cause of the wronged, the victimized, and the oppressed. Christianity tells the wronged, the victimized, and the oppressed that they must meekly and silently accept the wrongs against them or else be considered sinners themselves (and hey, all sins are equal in God’s eyes, so that would make you “just as bad” as your rapist/attacker/insulter/harasser/whatever). Screw. That. Shit.* If you really believe that the comfort of murderers is more important than justice for their victims and their victims’ children—if victim-shaming and perpetrator-abetting are trulyyour idea of superior morality—you are a terrible person. Period, full stop, done.
As for your little addendum, I can quote Gandhi, too:
“Hitler,” Gandhi solemnly affirmed, “killed five million Jews. It is the greatest crime of our time. But the Jews should have offered themselves to the butcher’s knife. They should have thrown themselves into the sea from cliffs. I believe in hara-kiri. I do not believe in its militaristic connotations, but it is a heroic method.”
“You think,” I said, “that the Jews should have committed collective suicide?”
“Yes,” Gandhi agreed,” that would have been heroism.”
Source here. You have some serious nerve in coming to lecture Jews on how we should conform to Christian ideas, but quoting that man to Jews as a moral authority? SERIOUS nerve. (Then again, what he said there hews pretty closely to your own turn-the-other-cheek, so-called “morality,” so…wow, just wow.) And then, on top of that, you lecture us about capital punishment, in apparently total ignorance of the fact that Judaism and Talmud are anti-death-penalty. (Fun Fact: The only person ever executed in Israel was Adolf Eichmann, a man with millions of deaths on his hands—and the decision to execute him was still controversial.) Your chutzpah is just astounding, on all counts.
When you actually have a moral code worth respecting, we’ll talk. When you actually know jack shit about Judaism, we’ll talk. Until then, keep your ignorance to yourself.
* If you object to my use of indignant profanity, I can link you to one of your own posts where you used the word “shit” IN THE TITLE, so keep your tone-policing shit to yourself.
(Also, looks like your bullshit made my 100th post. You can decide for yourself whether that’s an honor.)